{"id":400,"date":"2012-03-03T13:22:47","date_gmt":"2012-03-03T12:22:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cut.the.crap.free.fr\/?p=400"},"modified":"2012-03-03T13:22:47","modified_gmt":"2012-03-03T12:22:47","slug":"la-democratie-nest-pas-compatible-avec-leconomie-de-marche","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.incaudavenenum.org\/cut.the.crap\/la-democratie-nest-pas-compatible-avec-leconomie-de-marche\/","title":{"rendered":"La d\u00e9mocratie n&rsquo;est pas compatible avec l&rsquo;\u00e9conomie de march\u00e9"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Lu dans <em>Circus politicus<\/em> de Christophe Deloire et Christophe Dubois (aux \u00e9ditions Albin Michel, 2012) :<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00ab\u00a0Le 8 juillet 2011, Suzanne Berger, professeur au MIT (Massachusetts  Institute of Technology) [&#8230;] prend la parole en revenant sur le d\u00e9bat  tr\u00e8s ancien lib\u00e9ralisme-d\u00e9mocratie. Elle va tenir des propos \u00e9clairants  :<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 <em>Les fondateurs de la R\u00e9publique am\u00e9ricaine \u00e9taient  profond\u00e9ment pr\u00e9occup\u00e9s de la question de savoir s&rsquo;il \u00e9tait possible  d&rsquo;avoir en m\u00eame temps un gouvernement d\u00e9mocratique et un syst\u00e8me  \u00e9conomique fond\u00e9 sur la propri\u00e9t\u00e9 individuelle. Comme James Madison  l&rsquo;expliquait, le plus grand danger pour une d\u00e9mocratie est que les  citoyens s&rsquo;organisent, se mobilisent, \u201cs&rsquo;instituent en factions\u201d pour  promouvoir la demande majoritaire de redistribution par rapport au droit  \u00e0 la propri\u00e9t\u00e9<\/em>\u00b9.<\/p>\n<p>Suzanne Berger n&rsquo;invente rien. James  Madison, dont elle a prononc\u00e9 le nom, n&rsquo;est pas n&rsquo;importe qui. Coauteur  de la Constitution am\u00e9ricaine, il fut le quatri\u00e8me pr\u00e9sident des  Etats-Unis. Pour Madison, \u201cle gouvernement repr\u00e9sentatif n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas une  modalit\u00e9 de la d\u00e9mocratie, c&rsquo;\u00e9tait une forme de gouvernement  essentiellement diff\u00e9rente et, de surcro\u00eet, pr\u00e9f\u00e9rable\u201d. Il consid\u00e9rait que d\u00e9mocratie et \u00e9conomie de march\u00e9 n&rsquo;allaient pas de pair. \u201cLes  d\u00e9mocraties, \u00e9crivait-il, ont toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 des spectacles de  turbulences et de contestations [&#8230;] incompatibles avec la s\u00e9curit\u00e9  personnelle et le droit \u00e0 la propri\u00e9t\u00e9\u00b2.\u201d\u00a0\u00bb<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>CQFD. La d\u00e9mocratie r\u00e9elle reste \u00e0 conqu\u00e9rir contre l&rsquo;oligarchie qui se cache (de moins en moins) derri\u00e8re une d\u00e9mocratie formelle. <em>Cut the crap<\/em> et <a href=\"http:\/\/www.placeaupeuple2012.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\">place au peuple<\/a> !<\/p>\n<h6>1. Suzanne Berger, <em>Liberalism vs democracy, a turning point<\/em>, intervention aux rencontres \u00e9conomiques d&rsquo;Aix-en-Provence, juillet 2011.<\/h6>\n<h6>2. Bernard Manin, <em>Principes du gouvernement repr\u00e9sentatif<\/em>, Calmann-L\u00e9vy, 1995.<\/h6>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lu dans Circus politicus de Christophe Deloire et Christophe Dubois (aux \u00e9ditions Albin Michel, 2012) : \u00ab\u00a0Le 8 juillet 2011, Suzanne Berger, professeur au MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) [&#8230;] prend la parole en revenant sur le d\u00e9bat tr\u00e8s ancien lib\u00e9ralisme-d\u00e9mocratie. Elle va tenir des propos \u00e9clairants : \u2014 Les fondateurs de la R\u00e9publique am\u00e9ricaine &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.incaudavenenum.org\/cut.the.crap\/la-democratie-nest-pas-compatible-avec-leconomie-de-marche\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer la lecture<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> de &laquo;&nbsp;La d\u00e9mocratie n&rsquo;est pas compatible avec l&rsquo;\u00e9conomie de march\u00e9&nbsp;&raquo;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-400","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-lectures"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>La d\u00e9mocratie n&#039;est pas compatible avec l&#039;\u00e9conomie de march\u00e9 - Cut The Crap<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.incaudavenenum.org\/cut.the.crap\/la-democratie-nest-pas-compatible-avec-leconomie-de-marche\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"La d\u00e9mocratie n&#039;est pas compatible avec l&#039;\u00e9conomie de march\u00e9 - Cut The Crap\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Lu dans Circus politicus de Christophe Deloire et Christophe Dubois (aux \u00e9ditions Albin Michel, 2012) : \u00ab\u00a0Le 8 juillet 2011, Suzanne Berger, professeur au MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) [&#8230;] prend la parole en revenant sur le d\u00e9bat tr\u00e8s ancien lib\u00e9ralisme-d\u00e9mocratie. 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